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These Indians
K.R.RAVI , potomac: Jun 19 2009
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Indians lack soft skills. Whenever some well meaning leaders talk of India’s skills deficit they almost always refer to ‘ hard skills’ –skills of a carpenter , mason, accountant, electrician etc.

I am afraid sufficient attention has not been paid to soft skills where even many educated Indians are deficient. My attention was drawn to this weakness by a series of incidents some of which are hilarious and some painful.

A delegation of MP’s from India recently visited the capital of a western country no doubt on a study tour [at tax payers’ expense] that usually is more about touring, shopping and sightseeing than about studying. At a banquet hosted by a senior official of the host country some Honourable Members of our Parliament wiped their food- soiled hands on the curtains ! It was curtains for India’s reputation.

As if that was not bad enough one MP from this delegation had a bath in a 5 star hotel in a big city in that country. After bath he came out of the bathroom in the bath robe provided by the hotel , put on the bath chappals also provided by the hotel and walked into the street in full view of the public in broad daylight. He probably thought that the bathrobe was a fine dress for a day out in a downtown entertainment district.

Recently I was at the Grand Canyon when I saw an elderly Indian man peering at the admittedly cute kid in a pram pushed by a white American. The Indian could not resist walking up to the baby and fondling it, pecking at the cheeks—this is just not done here in the USA.

The white man was aghast but held his emotions in check. I blame not the old man but his son –probably a computer guy perhaps having computer skills but lacking in soft skills himself. On another occasion I saw another Indian following his son in a mall in Virginia. The father was dressed in the dirtiest of lungis I have seen in years with an equally dirty towel[thundu] casually strung on his shoulders. It was obvious that the man hailed from a totally rural background and had not been initiated into the graces of western society where it may not matter what you wear but your dress has to be neat.His son who accompanied the elderly man appeared nonchalant even as I was deeply embarrassed.What is happening in Australia these days may be another manifestation of our poor soft skills.

Here is my take on the events there based on what I have heard from my relatives in that country and also on my observations n the U.S.

The boys and girls who go overseas these days are often from rural backgrounds, of humble means, with little or no social graces due to the limitations of their upbringing. They tend to display in the foreign lands the kind of behaviour that is not objected to in India—loud talk in public transport, showing of expensive mobile phones,sniggering at girls, passing lewd comments, roaming around late nights in seedy areas etc. This is asking for trouble anywhere in the world. There is little point in alleging racism when our youngsters have not been initiated to soft skills How is it that .

Other Indians living in Australia have not ever been treated this way ? These Indian immigrants live in safe localities, conduct themselves respectably and indeed are welcome immigrants and model citizens.

There is a dire and urgent need for imparting soft skills right from school. Those traveling abroad – executives. politicians, administrators, students. tourists need such training on the eve of their departure to foreign lands.

I recall an incident when the then External Affairs Minister of India was traveling by Air India to an international conference with a large entourage . Once the pilot announced that the seat belt sign had been switched off the Minister proceeded to sit on the floor of the plane surrounded by his entourage of netas and babus no doubt discussing how india must take its due place in the comity of nations, in the high tables of the international community.

I believe we are not yet ready for the high tables .Once our netas sit on the high table they will probably put one foot on the table and the other in their mouth.

K.R.RAVI

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Jamie
Birmingham, United Kingdom
It's true that Indians don't know the manners. They don't have the etiquettes of a civilized society.
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Keith
London, United Kingdom
What is bad in going into streets wit bath chappals? By highlighting this point you have shown that Indians suffer from inferiority complex.
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K.R.RAVI WWW.KRRAVI.COM
potomac, United States
How about bath robes ?
(Global Perspectives)
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Prasad
Howrah, India
I think most of the world still thinks that maximum Indians lives in slums..this is the impression that we lay on them.
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Ekta
Jaipur, India
ha ha ha!! Good post. i like it.

Indians lack basic etiquette and that is true. i hate to see people spitting every where around, but then these are the typical qualities in Indians which they pass on to the generations.
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Gaurav
Banglore, India
I agree that the representatives of our country should be smart and good looking apart from intelligent. And if they are not, there should be 1 month training given to them on their eating and dressing habits.
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Puneet
Noida, India
Long time back, i read some where, "why are indians so dirty" and i observed people that i know and wondered we are not dirty, why do they say this.

After reading this, the things are getting clear.
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Arefa
Kottayam, India
Indians badly lack the habit of cleanliness. Most of them believe in throwing the dirt of their house in the neighborhood.
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Usha
Chennai, India
There may be many points which are absolutely true in the article. But isn’t it better that we do not wash dirty linen in public.
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Vijay
Kota, India
Right Usha,It’s our own problem and the solution,correction and implementation is the need of time.
Our Neta’s represent our country and most of them are regularly chewing ’Paan’,which reflex a wrong pictures of our country.
The Globe now converted into a big village and there is no hidden place remained to wash dirty linen,so take it easy and let’s wash them in a full public view.
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Vijay
Kota, India
Right Usha,It’s our own problem and the solution,correction and implementation is the need of time.
Our Neta’s represent our country and most of them are regularly chewing ’Paan’,which reflex a wrong pictures of our country.
The Globe now converted into a big village and there is no hidden place remained to wash dirty linen,so take it easy and let’s wash them in a full public view.
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Leena
Kolkata, India
Indian intellectual skills have been commended the world over in so many spheres. We have produced scientific and literary geniuses. These people have presented themselves well. Indian beauties are making their mark in Hollywood films too. If fondling a baby in USA is offending, so is giving a peck on the cheek of the members of the opposite sex in public in India which many of these westerners do. But we are pretty broad minded to accept that.

As you have pointed out I do agree that some Indians need to be trained on soft skills. But as an Indian I will never want to condemn my fellowmen in public because if I do so, outsiders like Jamie and Keith will come forward to make derogatory comments about my people and my nation (as though the entire western world is infested with people with flawless soft skills). It hurts to know that when the entire world is trying to project its best image in public, we Indians don’t tire insulting our own people in public.
You should know that efforts are being made in this country to improve their international etiquette. Their fellow countrymen who are staying in western countries should not merely blame them but encourage them in a positive tone to develop what you call ’soft skills’.
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Keith
London, United Kingdom
Leena
I do appreciate the Indian intellectual skills. To walk in streets with bath chappals is not a sign of insult. But Ravi wants to prove that it is insulting. Have you not seen so many Britishers in India moving in the streets with chappals. They remain as simple as they can be.
(Global Perspectives)
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Leena
Kolkata, India
Thanks Kieth for clarifying, but what makes you say that if an indian goes out in public with bath chappals, he is suffering from an inferiority complex ? This kind of a remark does make one feel as though you are insulting indians.
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Anirudh
Mumbai, India
Definitely Indian need to improve their soft skill. Our school curriculum and our system of governance need to adopt soft skill training to all citizen, especially the students. Mr. Shashi Taroor talked about setting up ’finishing school’ in Trivandrum, Kerala. I think such initiative make a good beginning.Much earlier he understood what we, Indian lacks basically.

Somebody has to tell the fact in public. It is not the question of washing dirty linen in public. We should accept and rectify our mistakes instead of concealing the truth. We expect more comparative articles in future like you, who is staying abroad.
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Leena
Kolkata, India
Mr. Anirudh


If one of your family members had one of these etiquette problems will you talk about that in public so that others also get an opportunity to make fun of that person, or will you silently understand his problem and teach him the etiquette?
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Rajagopalan S
Bangalore, Karnataka, India
Keith, I agree with you wholly. No one doubts the intellectuality of Indians but they are unable to cope with the living style in other countries. What is good locally may not be acceptable overseas and we need to raise our standards and live up — that is why they used to say in the olden days ”if you are in Rome you should be a Roman”.

I second with you on chappals too. Some stores in the US have a sign board ”Customers with sandals are not permitted”.

A hungry child can bypass a queue in a school canteen in India, while this is considered rude and punishable in the US. Similar things hold good for adults too. While schools teach about trignometry, world history and physics etc they should also teach these things in India. Many corporates cover this as part of travel orientation when engineers undertake travel overseas on long term assignments — how to behave with their clients at onsite locations, what are the living standards, how to present before the clients etc. What is left out at young age are being taught at middle or older age to us, by hiring teachers from from IIMs and spending lakhs of rupees which is the true Indianity!

We take it personally if someone points our mistakes too. We should swallow our pride and learn to fix our gap which will only resolve these issues.
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Usha
Chennai, India
Ms. Leena

Well said. It is high time we think about India as a family rather than as a country. Our members are working very hard to make a mark for themselves. The evidence is that - India is not as much affected by recession as US. Hence, small follies can be ignored or at least not magnified.
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Leena
Kolkata, India
Thank you Ms. Usha for seeing my point in this discussion and agreeing with it.
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Lynne K
Sydney, Australia
Every country has its own perculiar idiosyncry’s.
Behaviour is different in every culture and one should learn or at least read about the do’s and dont’s before travelling to a foreign country, to save any embarrassment.
Members of my family as well as myself have been in awkward situations through ignorance when travelling to foreign countries, so its a learning process for everyone, not just for Indians.
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